I'm not buying it.

PaulGiz

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Not a sports car by any means, but I'm not buying the 170hp/199lb-ft figures.

Much faster than my last car -- 170hp 2.5L Golf 3-door, despite weighing a quarter-ton more.

We won't talk about the slug that was my 170hp 2.5L Subaru, a car that was borderline dangerous because it couldn't get out of its own way.

Are they downplaying output to sell the 2 liter version on higher-end models?

Whatever -- decent performance and gobs of torque down low and free revving sweetness at the top.

Nice motor.

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And not to shabby on fuel economy either. I've just done a trip (mostly highway roads) getting 36 - 37 mpg. Pretty happy with that. Not quite as good as the advertised 40 mpg in the brochure, but acceptable to me.
 

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haha I agree with you and think VW is down playing the power on the Alltrack. It definitely feels peppier than 70hp/199lb-ft
 

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My owners manual states that there may be a performance enhancement using premium fuel: did they get their hp/tq numbers using regular? (Many folk will pay out the nose for a great car, but quibble about paying thirty cents a gallon more for premium fuel, so I believe VW gives the car the ability to retard timing to use the cheaper fuel, and that VW uses the 'cheaper fuel' thing as a selling point.)

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Well after 7k miles on regular, I've been running 93 for the last 2k.

I won't get into any arguments because this is not scientific, but my feeling is the car does feel stronger with the higher grade. It is nice to know it will run just fine on 87.

Either way, it still doesn't feel like 170, especially considering 3,500 lbs and all the losses from AWD.
 

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I know what you mean: my wife's Tiguan was run on regular or midgrade for a while, and has felt stronger since we went to using premium every time. I suspect the same for my Alltrak, but haven't had it nearly long enough to be sure. This is all a 'seat-of-the-pants' thing: I haven't dyno'd it.
I don't mind paying more for premium fuel.

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I know what you mean: my wife's Tiguan was run on regular or midgrade for a while, and has felt stronger since we went to using premium every time. I suspect the same for my Alltrak, but haven't had it nearly long enough to be sure. This is all a 'seat-of-the-pants' thing: I haven't dyno'd it.
I don't mind paying more for premium fuel.

Craig
It's the same for the Alltrak, it does feel peppier with premium.
 
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Interesting comments.

As an Outback owner, yes a lot more pep. If I have the bike hitch rack on at freeway speeds it's no way near my wife's Sienna SE that's 292 HP. If you live with the CVT in Outback being a bit obnoxious, the two vehicles are more alike. Without the rack on the Alltrack is happier to keep with freeway traffic in the 65 - 75 MPH range and not drop the fuel economy so much.

It's early in ownership but my car is broken in. It does seem very effective or capable for the power rating.

For me it's too early to judge the differences with octane but our turbocharged Volvo did better on loaded up trips with higher octane. I believe it's universal to get the improvement when you're blowing on the fire with higher octane.
 
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